P0780: How to Diagnose & Fix — Shift Malfunction (Shift Error)
7 vehicles · 3 makes · $150-$5,000 repair
How to diagnose and fix P0780: most-reported vehicles
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Acura TL · 2004–2008
The third-generation TL automatic transmission is notorious for 3rd gear clutch pack failure, often between 80,000-120,000 miles. The 3rd gear clutch pack burns out due to insufficient fluid flow and a weak pressure regulator design, causing the transmission to slip, flare, or refuse to engage 3rd gear entirely.
Common Symptoms
- Transmission slips or flares when shifting to 3rd gear
- RPMs spike without acceleration in 3rd
- Harsh engagement into 3rd gear
- Check engine light with transmission codes
- Burning smell from transmission
How to Fix
Rebuild or replace the transmission with upgraded 3rd gear clutch pack and updated valve body. Use only Honda DW-1 ATF. Install an aftermarket transmission cooler to reduce operating temperatures. Change ATF every 30,000 miles to extend the life of the rebuilt unit.
What you need to fix it
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- Genuine Honda DW-1 service fluid
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Owner tips & cautions
- WarningChange the ATF every 25,000-30,000 miles religiously. The TL transmission is a known weak point, and fluid changes are the single best preventive measure. Do NOT use non-Honda ATF — it accelerates clutch pack wear.
Sources for this issue (4)
Acura ILX · 2016–2022
The 2013-2015 ILX 2.4L with the 8-speed dual-clutch transmission (DCT) exhibits severe shudder, jerking, and hesitation during low-speed driving. The clutch packs engage roughly in stop-and-go traffic, and the transmission frequently hunts between gears on slight inclines, making city driving extremely unpleasant.
Common Symptoms
- Violent shudder from stop in 1st gear
- Jerking during low-speed acceleration
- Hesitation when pulling away from traffic lights
- Transmission hunting on slight inclines
- Grinding sensation during slow parking maneuvers
How to Fix
Update the DCT software to the latest Acura calibration which improves low-speed clutch engagement. Perform a DCT fluid change with genuine Honda DCTF. In severe cases, the clutch pack assembly needs replacement. Acura extended warranty coverage on the DCT to 7 years/100,000 miles due to widespread complaints.
Owner tips & cautions
- WarningCheck if your VIN is covered under the extended DCT warranty (7yr/100k). Many owners have had full clutch pack replacements covered at no cost. Document every shudder incident with date, mileage, and conditions.
Honda Pilot · 2003–2004
Early first-generation Pilot models share a well-documented 5-speed automatic transmission weakness with other Honda/Acura trucks of the era. Honda issued a safety recall to install an oil jet intended to improve lubrication/cooling of second gear because inadequate lubrication could lead to gear overheating, discoloration, breakage, and eventual transmission failure or lockup. Owners commonly report slipping, harsh shifting, flashing D4, burnt fluid, and complete loss of drive, sometimes even after the recall if damage had already begun.
Common Symptoms
- slipping on acceleration
- harsh or delayed shifts
- flashing D4 light
- burnt transmission fluid smell
- loss of drive
- shudder during shifting
- transmission overheating
How to Fix
Verify whether the recall was completed and inspect for signs of overheated or contaminated ATF, delayed engagement, and shift flare. Scan the transmission control system for ratio and pressure-related codes, road test for slipping or flare on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts, and inspect line pressure if needed. Mild cases may improve temporarily with repeated drain-and-fill using the correct Honda ATF, but many units ultimately require rebuild or replacement if second gear or the torque converter is damaged.
Owner tips & cautions
- TipIf the D4 light flashes or shifts become erratic, stop driving until fluid condition and transmission operation are checked; continued driving can rapidly turn a repairable issue into a full rebuild.
- TipOwners often shorten ATF service intervals to roughly 25k-30k miles on early Pilots, especially if towing or driving in hot climates.
Sources for this issue (1)
Honda CR-V · 2002–2011
Lexus RX · 2000–2003
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Frequently asked questions
What does P0780 mean?
P0780 stands for "Shift Malfunction (Shift Error)." P0780 is a general transmission code indicating the control module detected a shift malfunction — the transmission did not change gears correctly or did not achieve the commanded gear during a shift. It is often a 'parent' code that accompanies more specific solenoid or gear-ratio codes that pinpoint which shift failed. Symptoms can include harsh, slipping, delayed, or missed shifts, and possibly limp mode. It is generally drivable short-term but should be diagnosed promptly to prevent transmission damage.
What are the most common causes of P0780?
The most common causes of P0780 are: Low, dirty, or degraded transmission fluid, Faulty shift solenoid(s), Worn internal clutches/bands or valve body wear, Wiring or connector faults in the transmission circuit, Stuck valve body passages from debris, Faulty transmission control module, Internal mechanical transmission wear. The specific cause varies by vehicle.
How much does it cost to fix P0780?
Repair costs for P0780 range from $150 to $5,000, depending on the vehicle and root cause.
Which vehicles are affected by P0780?
Au7o has documented P0780 across 7 vehicle models from 3 manufacturers: Acura, Honda, Lexus.
Content compiled with AI assistance using NHTSA complaints, TSBs, and owner reports. May contain errors. Always verify with your vehicle's service manual.